Is Raw Milk Safe for Babies?
December 31, 2001Francis M. Pottenger, MD and “The Hazards of a Health Fetish”
January 1, 2002By Sally Fallon Morell
To help you with any questions you may have about the recipes below, please refer to our:
- Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) on Homemade Baby Formula,
- Diet for Pregnant and Nursing Mothers,
- FAQ on Diet for Pregnancy, and
- Homemade Baby Formula Testimonials.
VIDEO: Chapter leader Sarah Pope has posted videos about making both the raw milk and liver formulas:
- Milk-Based Formula Video: thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/video-homemade-milk-based-baby-formula/
- Liver-Based Formula Video: thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/video-hypoallergenic-baby-formula/
Many of the ingredients for these recipes are available from Radiant Life, 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com.
Jump to:
- Raw Milk Baby Formula
- Variation: Goat Milk Formula
- Liver-Based Formula
- Fortified Commercial Formula
- Egg Yolk for Baby
- Homemade Whey
- Breast Milk and Homemade Formula Nutrient Comparison Chart
Raw Milk Baby Formula
Makes 36 ounces
Our milk-based formula takes account of the fact that human milk is richer in whey, lactose, vitamin C, niacin, and long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids compared to cow’s milk but leaner in casein (milk protein). The addition of gelatin to cow’s milk formula will make it more digestible for the infant. Use only truly expeller-expressed oils in the formula recipes, otherwise they may lack vitamin E.
The ideal milk for baby, if he cannot be breastfed, is clean, whole raw milk from old-fashioned cows, certified free of disease, that feed on green pasture. For sources of good quality milk, see www.realmilk.com or contact a local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation.
If the only choice available to you is commercial milk, choose whole milk, preferably organic and unhomogenized, and culture it with a piima or kefir culture to restore enzymes (available from G.E.M. Cultures 707-964-2922).
Ingredients
- 2 cups whole raw cow’s milk, preferably from pasture-fed cows
- 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below) Note: Do NOT use powdered whey or whey from making cheese (which will cause the formula to curdle). Use only homemade whey made from yoghurt, kefir or separated raw milk.
- 4 tablespoons lactose1
- 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
- 2 or more tablespoons good quality cream (preferably not ultrapasteurized), more if you are using milk from Holstein cows
- 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
- 1/4 teaspoon high-vitamin butter oil (optional)1
- 1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil1
- 1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil1
- 2 teaspoons coconut oil1
- 2 teaspoons Frontier brand nutritional yeast flakes1
- 2 teaspoons gelatin1
- 1-7/8 cups filtered water
- 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1, 2
1. Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com.
2. Earlier versions of this web page called for 1 tsp of bifidobacterium infantis and 1 tsp of acerola powder–these were typos.
3. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.
Instructions
- Put 2 cups filtered water into a pyrex measuring pitcher and remove 2 tablespoons (that will give you 1-7/8 cups water).
- Pour about half of the water into a pan and place on a medium flame.
- Add the gelatin and lactose to the pan and let dissolve, stirring occasionally.
- When the gelatin and lactose are dissolved, remove from heat and add the remaining water to cool the mixture.
- Stir in the coconut oil and optional high-vitamin butter oil and stir until melted.
- Meanwhile, place remaining ingredients into a blender.
- Add the water mixture and blend about three seconds.
- Place in glass bottles or a glass jar and refrigerate.
- Before giving to baby, warm bottles by placing in hot water or a bottle warmer. NEVER warm bottles in a microwave oven.
Variation: Goat Milk Formula
Although goat milk is rich in fat, it must be used with caution in infant feeding as it lacks folic acid and is low in vitamin B12, both of which are essential to the growth and development of the infant. Inclusion of nutritional yeast to provide folic acid is essential. To compensate for low levels of vitamin B12, if preparing the Milk-Based Formula (above) with goat’s milk, add 2 teaspoons organic raw chicken liver, frozen for 14 days, finely grated to the batch of formula (or, 1/4 teaspoon dessicated liver per batch). Be sure to begin egg-yolk feeding at four months.
Liver-Based Formula
Makes about 36 ounces
Our liver-based formula also mimics the nutrient profile of mother’s milk. It is extremely important to include coconut oil in this formula as it is the only ingredient that provides the special medium-chain saturated fats found in mother’s milk. As with the milk-based formula, all oils should be truly expeller-expressed.
Ingredients
- 3-3/4 cups homemade beef or chicken broth
- 2 ounces organic liver, cut into small pieces
- 5 tablespoons lactose1
- 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
- 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below)
- 1 tablespoon coconut oil1
- 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
- 1 teaspoon unrefined sunflower oil1
- 2 teaspoons extra virgin olive oil1
- 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1,2
1. Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com.
2. Earlier versions of this web page called for 1 tsp of bifidobacterium infantis and 1 tsp of acerola powder–these were typos.
3. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.
Instructions
- Simmer liver gently in broth until the meat is cooked through.
- Liquefy using a handheld blender or in a food processor.
- When the liver broth has cooled, stir in remaining ingredients.
- Store in a very clean glass or stainless steel container.
- To serve, stir formula well and pour 6 to 8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle.
- Attach a clean nipple and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)
Fortified Commercial Formula
Makes about 35 ounces
This stopgap formula can be used in emergencies, or when the ingredients for homemade formula are unavailable.
Ingredients
- 1 cup milk-based powdered formula1
- 29 ounces filtered water (3 5/8 cups)
- 1 large egg yolk from an organic egg, cooked 3 1/2 minutes (See recipe for egg yolk, below)
- 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil2
1. We are sorry to report that the Mead Johnson (Enfamil) Low Iron formula we previously recommended is no longer available. In fact, all commercial formula now contains iron, by FDA decree. The best choice for commercial formula today seems to be Baby’s Only Organic Dairy Formula. It contains iron but otherwise contains higher quality ingredients than any of the other commercial formulas. It is also the only brand on the market at this time without the Martek DHASCO and ARASCO additive. If you are forced to use commercial formula, make sure that baby is getting cod liver oil, either added to the formula or given with an eye dropper or syringe. As soon as possible, introduce solid foods like egg yolk, liver, meat and bone broths.
2. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.
Instructions:
- Place all ingredients in a blender or food processor and blend thoroughly.
- Place 6-8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle. (Store the rest in a very clean glass jar in the refrigerator for the next feedings.)
- Attach a clean nipple to the bottle and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)
Egg Yolk for Baby
Egg yolk should be baby’s first solid food, starting at 4 months, whether baby is breastfed or formula-fed. Egg yolks from pastured hens will contain the special long-chain fatty acids so critical for the optimal development of the brain and nervous system. The whites may cause an allergic reaction and should not be given to baby until he is at least one year old.
Ingredients:
- 1 organic egg from a pasture-fed hen
- 1/2 teaspoon grated raw organic liver, frozen for 14 days Note: It is VERY important that the liver be frozen for 14 days before using.
Instructions:
- Boil egg for 3 1/2 minutes.
- Place in a bowl and peel off shell.
- Remove egg white and discard.
- Yolk should be soft and warm, not hot, with its enzyme content intact.
- If you wish to add liver, grate on the small holes of a grater while frozen. Allow to warm up and stir into egg yolk.
Homemade Whey
About 5 cups
Homemade whey is easy to make from good quality plain yoghurt, or from raw or cultured milk. You will need a large strainer that rests over a bowl.
If you are using yoghurt, place 2 quarts in the strainer lined with a tea towel. Cover with a plate and leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Place whey in clean glass jars and store in the refrigerator.
If you are using raw or cultured milk, place 2 quarts of the milk in a glass container and leave at room temperature for 2-4 days until the milk separates into curds and whey. Pour into the strainer lined with a tea towel and cover with a plate. Leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Store in clean glass jars in the refrigerator.
Source: Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon with Mary G. Enig, PhD.
Breast Milk and Homemade Formula Nutrient Comparison Chart
Based on 36 ounces.
These nutrient comparison tables were derived from standard food nutrient tables and do not take into account the wide variation in nutrient levels that can occur in both human and animal milk, depending on diet and environment.
Breast Milk | Cow’s Milk Formula |
Goat Milk Formula |
Liver-Based Formula |
|
Calories | 766 | 856 | 890 | 682 |
Protein | 11.3g | 18g | 18g | 15g |
Carbohydrates | 76g | 79g | 77g | 69g |
Total Fat | 48g | 52g | 54g | 36g |
Saturated Fat | 22g | 28g | 30g | 16g |
Mono Fat | 18g | 16g | 16g | 12g |
Poly Fat | 5.5g | 5.6g | 5.7g | 5.6g |
Omega-3 FA | .58g | 1.3g | 1.2g | 1.0g |
Omega-6 FA | 4.4g | 4.2g | 4.4g | 4.5g |
Cholesterol | 153mg | 137mg | 166mg | 227mg |
Vitamin A* | 946IU | 5000IU | 5000IU | 20,000IU |
Thiamin-B1 | .15mg | 1.05mg | 1.1mg | .19mg |
Riboflavin-B2 | .4mg | 1.2mg | 1.2mg | 1.9mg |
Niacin-B3 | 1.9mg | 2.5mg | 4.4mg | 14.2mg |
Vitamin B6 | .12mg | .51mg | .60mg | .65mg |
Vitamin B12 | .5mcg | 1.9mcg | 2.8mcg | 39mcg |
Folate | 57mcg | 236mcg | 284mcg | 159mcg |
Vitamin C | 55mg | 57mg | 59mg | 62mg |
Vitamin D | 480IU | 450IU | 525IU | 460IU |
Vitamin E*** | 9.9mg | 6.2mg | 4.7mg | 4.9mg |
Calcium | 355mg | 532mg | 548mg | NA** |
Copper | .57mg | .38mg | .58mg | 1.9mg |
Iron | .33mg | 1.4mg | 2.2mg | 5.4mg |
Magnesium | 37.4mg | 91.3mg | 96.1mg | 34.5mg |
Manganese | .29mg | .034mg | .12mg | .24mg |
Phosphorus | 151mg | 616mg | 729mg | 344mg |
Potassium | 560mg | 949mg | 1228mg | 750mg |
Selenium | 18.8mcg | 15.4mcg | 18.7mcg | 31.1mcg |
Sodium | 186mg | 308mg | 320mg | NA** |
Zinc | 1.9mg | 2.8mg | 2.7mg | 2.5mg |
* Vitamin A levels in human milk will depend on the diet of the mother. Nursing mothers eating vitamin A-rich foods such as cod liver oil will have much higher levels of vitamin A in their milk. Commercial formulas contain about 2400 IU vitamin A per 800 calories.
** Calcium and sodium values for homemade broth are not available.
*** Vitamin E values are derived from commercial vegetable oils. The vitamin E levels for homemade formulas will be higher if good quality, expeller-expressed oils are used.
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299 Comments
Hi Cindy, the chart in the article is referring to the nutrient values of the FORMULAS. So the B12 value for the Goat Milk Formula is higher because that recipe includes a small amount of grated raw liver, which has a high amount of B12 (as you can see by the much higher B12 value for the liver-based formula). If the goat milk formula didn’t have the liver it would be lower in B12 than the human milk or the cow’s milk formula. Hope this clears up the confusion!
(Also the liver is included in the goat milk formula recipe not only for the B12 but also for the folate, which is very important. Babies exclusively on goat milk sometimes develop folate deficiency.)
I ran your question by Sally Fallon Morell: “Yes, at age one, or even starting around age 8 months if the baby is mature enough, you can wean to straight raw cows milk. Sally”
Would goats milk be just as good or better to wean to?
Reply from Sally Fallon Morell: “Goats milk is low in folate and B12, so if it is used in weaning, be sure that baby is getting lots of folate- and B12-rich foods, like liver. Sally”
why 8 months?? can the baby have some raw milk before then? maybe not full bottle but maybe part of the bottle? I mean the formulas are based off raw milk, can baby have some in small doses?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: The raw milk formula is diluted with whey and has more lactose added to mimic mothers milk. So while you probably could give raw cows milk, the formula is better for the infant.
Hi i just made a batch of it from Radiant Life. I put it in the fridge and the entire thing coagulated. Not sure what to do with it now.
My sons is liking the raw milk formula, he has been in it 3 weeks now. The problem is at the last ounce he starts to cry and push bottle away. This happens at almost very feeding. Is there something in the formula that could be causing this? He’s 2 months and was on babys only organic and earths best before we started the raw formula he was also doing this but it was worse and he was severely constipated. Now his BM are loose.
Thank you
I showed your comment to Sally Fallon Morell, who said, “Since he was doing this on both types of formula, I can only imagine that he is telling you that he is full.”
We just put my daughter on pasturized goats milk b/c she cannot take any other type formula, even the neocate. she is finally sleeping and not crying constantly but we are now concerned (from what we are reading) that we need to supplement the goats milk with folic acid and b12. what formula would we use to add to her goats milk? Can you ehlp with this? Thank you so much!
I shared your comment with Sally Fallon Morell, who replied: “Really, they need to be giving the daughter the RAW milk formula, preferably cows milk. But if raw goat milk, then add the liver as per instructions, or feed it separately (if the child is 4 months or older) She will be missing a lot more than folic acid and B12 if only pasteurized raw milk is given. -Sally”
My son is 1 year 9 months now . Recently he is been passing his motion 4-5 times a day which is not normal for him as he used to pass motions only once a day. It also had foul smell something like I can relate to curd like smell. We did blood occult test on doctor’s recommendation n the test suggested just positive for blood occult, so his paediatrician is recommending he should not be given milk and milk products forever. Is this diagnosis correct. I can’t think of not offering yogurt n fresh milk as he just loves both. I also want to know how can we offer milk without heating to retain its full goodness. Thank you
What kind of milk or formula was he getting up to this point? Raw or pasteurized?
I live in Ohio where it is illegal to buy any raw milk. We have researched and found a local dairy that does not homogenize and uses low temperature pasteurization (145degrees for 30 min). I realize raw milk would be best, but it appears we don’t have that option here. Will this milk suffice? The dairy says this process only kills the harmful bacteria, but keeps the good qualities suck as the enzymes intact. If this will suffice, is there anything additional that should be added to the formula?
Thank you.
Raw milk is widely available in Ohio via cowshares. (It’s not illegal anywhere to BUY raw milk; the restrictions in place in each state dictate the conditions under which it may be SOLD. And in cowshares, you are not buying the milk at all; you are buying a cow or share of a cow or herd, and paying the farmer to take care of your animals and milk them for you. You are drinking the milk from your own animals; not buying the milk).
Check for the closest local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation here: http://www.westonaprice.org/local-chapters/find-local-chapter#oh and look into getting raw milk. It is much, much better than any kind of pasteurized milk.
You didn’t answer the question. Is it acceptable to use unhomogenized lightly pasteurized milk?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Better not to, especially for very small babies. Raw milk is available almost everywhere. Contact your nearest local WAPF chapter.
I’m in Ohio where did u find the raw milk I can’t find anywhere
Webmaster note: I am adding this comment from Sally Fallon Morell to the comments I can find that discuss low temperature pasteurization (in other words her reply is not in direct response to your comment–it’s to an email I received, but I thought it would be informative and so wanted to share):
Sally Fallon Morell note: “Low temperature pasteurization” is just old fashioned pasteurization, heating the milk to 160 degrees. This is enough to destroy all or most of the enzymes. It might be better than the modern UHT pasteurization, which heats to 230 degrees and totally wipes out anything benefits in the milk, but it is still pasteurization. –Sally
Can I freeze the cows milk formula like breast milk? Thinking I could make a larger amount of formula then freeze some? How long does it stay good in the fridge after it’s made?
Yes, you can freeze it. And will stay good in fridge 3-4 days. But best to get into the habit of making it fresh daily or every other day. Sally
I have been trying to get an answer to this for some time. Sorry for the delay. Sally is looking for someone to survey all the commercial formulas. If I get an answer I’ll update this page.
Hi, my daughter is 9 months old and has been exclusively breastfed since day one, I am expecting baby #2 and have found my milk supply has dipped as I enter my 10th week of pregnancy. I want to avoid commercial formula at all costs, and am interested in supplementing some with either raw goat or cows milk. Would it be best to make the formula or would it be alright to give it to her alone? I’m hoping to make it to her first birthday with just supplementing 1-2 feedings per day. Thanks in advance for any advice!
From Sally Fallon Morell: “At nine months, it is fine to give the raw milk alone. And she needs solid foods–egg yolk, pureed meat and liver, custards, banana, etc. It really would be best to gradually wean her so your body can concentrate on building the next baby.”
I’m still a little nervous about giving my 6 month old baby raw milk. Unfortunately due to medical reasons my baby only breastfed for a very short time.
Do you think the “raw” milk formula would still be beneficial if I flash pasteurized the milk on the stove-top and then added back bifidobacterium infantis? Here is a method that I was using to flash pasteurize donor milk:
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/05/21_breastmilk-video.shtml
Sorry forgot to request to be notified about follow-up comments
If the health reasons are no longer an issue, and you want to, you can begin breast feeding again. I had weaned my daughter, and had stopped producing milk, but upon my daughter’s pediatrician’s recommendation, resumed (she had health problems that breastfeeding provided a solution to as opposed to gama globin injecitons). It is not difficult and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have if you’re interested in resuming breastfeeding. It saved my daughter’s life.
Hi Donna,
Does this mean you did what’s called “re-lactation”? Where your supply drops to nothing, and then you get it going again? In my case my supply is down to about half a teaspoon in each breast per day. I’d like to restart breastfeeding, but don’t know if I can get my supply back. Any guidance or advice?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: You might be able to relactate by giving the formula with the lact-aid, but it might not work for the liver formula–the tube might be too small.
Hi Sally. How much of the homemade liver based formula can I give my 7 mth old, 20 lb baby? I’ve read that you’re only supposed to give 2 x teaspoons of liver once a week. I’m concerned about Vitamin A and iron toxicity.
I’m concerned about vitamin A toxicity with liver formula. Is this a real issue with the formula? Is it less if using chicken liver?
From Sally Fallon Morell: “You can use chicken liver if you are concerned, this would be fine. We have had a number of babies brought up on this with no signs of vitamin A toxicity. Sally”
Hi Sally,
My baby is 10 and 1/2 months old and I was wondering if it was good to give my baby raw milk formula at that age? Also, how long should a baby be on the raw milk formula?
You may want to look at the raw milk formula FAQ on the Weston A Price Foundation site (see link at the top of this page). One of the FAQ says:
Q: At what age can we switch from formula to plain raw milk?
A: The answer to this depends on the age, weight and maturity of the child. A child that was premature, very small or delayed in development may benefit from taking the formula in a bottle well past the first year. But a child who is growing well, sitting up, eating solid foods and able to sip from a cup can probably transition to raw milk sometime after the 8th month.
So if you are using the raw milk formula now, you may want to consider beginning switching to just raw milk and solid foods.
In answer to the question of arsenic in Baby’s Only Formula, after researching this, I found that the arsenic levels were never at a harmful level (<1 ppm), but due to the controversy, the makers of this formula worked very hard to re-work the processing of the brown rice sugar and now have no detectable arsenic. https://www.naturesone.com/pdf/N1-Organic_Formula_Manufacturer_Leads_in_Eliminating_Arsenic_3-13.pdf#view=FitH,0
check the ingredient list at Vita Cost – could not get from any other place – tried to get a label. Toddler powder has
4 sources of msg – see the “Truth About Vitamins” online. Vitamins today are not the way they used to be – made from petroleum. cj fake vitamin e – I do not trust any company that will not provide a list of ingredients.
I am starting my two month old on the milk homemade formula. My pediatrician recommended using flash pasteurized non homogenized milk instead of raw to cut down on risk of infection. If I do this do I need to reculture the milk? And if so, what is the reasoning behind it? Thank you!
Sally Fallon Morell replies, “Do NOT flash pasteurize the milk, you will put your baby at much GREATER risk of infection and ruin all the good things in the milk. Sally”
how does flash pasteurize the milk put the baby at a great risk of infection?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: When you pasteurize milk, you kill all the components in milk that kill pathogens. For example, there has never been a case of illness from listeria from raw milk, but many cases and even deaths from listeria in pasteurized milk.
I am having trouble with ingredients settling at the bottom of the bottle and clogging the nipple making my baby frustrated. Is it OK to let the batch of formula settle then strain through mesh strainer or does anyone have tips on how to get everything to dissolve well?
From Sally Fallon Morell: When my daughter made this formula for my grandson, she mixed it in a blender and had no trouble with the ingredients clogging the nipple. But you could strain it if you want. Alternatively, leave out the yeast and see if it is easier for your baby.
We love the raw cow’s milk formula. My baby is a robust 6 month old. So much so that there have been some concerns by family about her robustness. (I think she’s fine, she’s just shy of 20lbs at 6 months and 26 inches, she’s not yet crawling, and I feel that when she starts crawling and is more mobile it’ll all be moot) Anyhow what can to show them or say to them to get them to stop nagging me, and to address their fears?
Sally Fallon Morell replies, “Is the baby getting solid food yet? I would be introducing food (along our guidelines) and cutting back on the formula.”
thanks for the reply!
I just started her on egg yolk, and she’s loving it. I’ll start liver very soon too. And I’ll reference the Nourishing Baby book for more ideas. I wonder if also using the liver formula would be beneficial?
Does a probiotic need to be added to the fortified commercial formula along with the cod liver oil?
can unsulphered blackstrap molassis be used for iron in place of liver in the goats milk variation? Also when raw milk is unavailable is Meyenberg powdered goats milk okay?
As long as it is prepared as recommended what is the better milk to offer, Goats or Cows as far as goats being more similiar in casein to whey as breastmilk wouldnt it be easier to digest or is this not true for raw cow milk?
If baby is allergic to cow milk will she be allergic to raw cow milk?
Reply from Sally Fallon Morell: (replying to each question in turn) “1) Liver is still better than blackstrap molasses. 2) We don’t recommend powdered goats milk. 3) As we have explained, goats milk is deficient in folate and B12, so cows milk is really better for babies. But if baby finds goat milk easier to digest, then you would need to add some liver to the formula to provide folate and B12. 4) Not necessarily, in fact the majority of babies and people “allergic” or intollerant to pasteurized milk do fone on raw milk.”
Why does the chicken liver need to be frozen for two weeks? My daughter is now 9 months, and at her last Dr. visit we found she was significantly anemic. I was supplementing about 1 bottle a day of raw goat milk from 6 months on, due to struggling with my milk supply. So I am now looking at using the raw goat milk formula. Can I make a first batch or two without freezing the livers for two weeks?
The recommendation for freezing the liver for two weeks is that the USDA says that freezing raw meat for two weeks kills any parasites that may be present. Sally Fallon recommends this step for all her raw meat dishes in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions.
My 3 month old has been using the raw milk formula for about a month and a half. He ha become pretty chroniclly constipated. Has anyone else had this problem. And can I add something to the formula to help. I was thinking I doubling the cod liver oil? But don’t want to mess with te nutritional content to his detriment. I would love your thoughts. Thank you.
Hi Rosalyn,
I wanted to know what you tried and if it worked. I saw your comment and my little 3 month old has also had a constipation problem after going on the Raw milk formula. Did you add something to the formula to help? I saw a comment from Sarah Pope that she suggested trying Kefir instead of Raw milk. All I could find was the skim milk raw kefir…I wasn’t sure if it needed to be whole milk kefir. help please.
I saw your comment and I have had the same issue. I just started my 4 mo old on the raw milk formula on 6/8/15. She has been constipated this week. I am planning to make my own kefir using kefir grains (they are reusable too), per the recommendation. However, I did consider weaning her off the commerical formula that she was eating before the switch. I am little concerned that the sodium content is too high and there is not enough water in the recipe. Is there anyone that can reply and add information?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: There are many solutions for constipation in The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care. For a stop gap measure, use a child suppository.
Hello, I tried this formula this morning with my 3 month old? I’m unable to nurse and she has been having issues with all the formula I’ve tried, her Ped think maybe a dairy allergy. So my question is, after trying this formula my daughter took a short nap, when she awoke she had terrible chest congestionwhich she’s never had before. You could hear all the mucus with every breath. It did clear up after a few hours, do you think this is a sign that dairy is just not for her??? And if so, what can I use???
Thanks for any help.
Sophie
Reply from Sally Fallon Morell: “No, I think it is a sign that the raw dairy is clearing her system of congestion. I would continue. Probably she will become congestion-free after a week or so. Sally”
Wondering if you kept feeding and what was the outcome?
Cream means heavy whipping cream. Half and half is whole milk and heavy cream. We call it cream but it’s not really *just* cream.
hi,
can someone please advise if i can make the the beef broth for the liver based formula weekly? sunday to sunday? will it keep in the fridge alone and/or made up into the formula?
just hoping to be able to make weekly batches on the weekend. r would it be best to make every 3 or 4 days?
any help would be great!
neisha
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Yes, you can make weekly batches of beef broth (it can also be chicken broth)
Hi,
Can you tell me how to 1) avoid the raw cows milk formula from separating in the fridge after I make it? It’s hard to get the oils to redistribute evenly. I was told that the white blood cells and enzymes in breast milk were very fragile and not to agitate the formula too strongly. Does it affect the homemade formula’s nutritional benefits to blend vigorously? 2) How do I best reheat the formula? What temp is too hot and kills the cells/denatured the proteins? I was looking for reheating directions on the recipie and in the Quick and A but didn’t see there.
My 8 1/2 month old baby girl tried and lived the cows milk formula today : )
Thank you!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: There is no other option but to blend it well and you can reblend if the formula has separated. Reheat by setting in a pan of simmering water, or in a bottle warmer. If it burns to the touch, it is too warm. Heat to just about body temperature. Glad your little girl liked it, most babies thrive on this formula.
The liver formula seems to be clearing up my 3 month old daughter’s eczema…that said, I can barely feed her, even with y or tri cut nipples, the formula is so thick (I use a blender and blend the heck out of the cooked liver and broth and then add the other ingredients, blend some more, and then pour the blended formula immediately into 4 oz glass bottles, pulsing each time I get ready to pour so ingredients do not settle to bottom of blender pitcher). I’m terrible at cutting y cuts or tri cuts into my avent nipplets and the pre cut y-cuts on the playtex drop in nurser bottles don’t accommodate the thick formula. I just wnt to keep feeding this stuff to my little girl, does anyone -anyone? – have any suggestions? Thanks…
I had originally posted a question about bottle nipples that accomodate the liver formula. ..seems as if I have found an answer (for the mixture using beef liver. I will be trying chicken liver beginning Monday and anticipate the nipples will accomodate that variation as well). FYI, as a tip to help whoever out there is making the meat based formula: while I have found that neither the fast flow nipples nor y-cut or tri-cut nipples from playtex drop in liners accomodate the thicker meat formula, however the variable flow “natural” nipples that fit the 4 and 8 oz. avent glass bottles work, as long as I really liquify the meat and broth to the point the meat turns into almost a foam. Hope that helps!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Thanks for this input. Yes, that liver formula has helped lots of babies who couldn’t do any milk.
Hi! I have make the homemade raw milk formula for my daughter today! The first batch turned out great but the second one I think I didn’t blend it long enough because I made a bottle for her and there was all this stuff flowing on the bottom. I do have a question: what is the consistency of the formula…is it water and a little lumpy before you warm it up and if so is that how it is made and I made it right? Also, can you mix formula with breastmilk? And how long can it be in the refrigerator?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: The consistency should be smooth. If you have stuff on the bottom or lumps, blend again. Yes, you can mix the formula with breast milk. Best to use up within 3 days.
I have a comment about mixing formula and breast milk. If you have only a small amount of breast milk, it is best not to mix it with formula, for the sake of making sure that the breast milk all gets into the baby. What I did was prepare two bottles (or Lact-Aid nursing trainors), one with a few ounces of breast milk, and the other with formula. The baby would drink all of the breast milk, first and then, if he was still hungry, he could have the formula.
I have a question : the egg yolk for baby said that start giving at 4 months? But then it says to give after a year?….so..which is it? And would you feed with a spoon TBS, TSP..cup? or put in formula mix and blend …either why…how much?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Egg yolk should start at 4-6 months, depending on the maturity of the baby. The egg is cooked 3 minutes, the white discarded. Salt is added and also some grated frozen liver if you want. Baby might only take less than a teaspoon at first, building up to the whole yolk.
I know this was over a year ago but with respect, I just want to address this. As long as you are healthy, and your pregnancy is normal/healthy, there is no reason to wean your child if you both still wish to continue your nursing relationship. You don’t need to wean so your body can “concentrate on building the next baby.” Both of your babies can get what they need, nature is awesome like that! If your supply drops significantly and your baby is too young for solids then it makes sense to supplement, but no need to fully wean. I continued to nurse my 16 month old through my pregnancy, and now I tandem nurse her and her brother. Her brother was extremely healthy (as is she) and even over a pound bigger than she was at birth, no nutritional deficiencies whatsoever. I also was healthier through my second pregnancy and postpartum. Raw cow and goat milk is absolutely awesome, but it isn’t custom made for your baby (or toddler) the way raw mama milk is. If you can, and want, to continue breastfeeding through your pregnancy and beyond, you can do so safely! And real raw milk will be an excellent boost to your own nutrition 🙂 See the fantastic Kelly mom website for great info on nursing while pregnant and tandem nursing. http://kellymom.com/pregnancy/bf-preg/official-tandem-bf-faq/
HI SALLY. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU RECOMMEND FOR THE NUTRITIONAL YEAST. RADIANT LIFE IS OUT OF STOCK ON THE FRONTIER NUTRITIONAL YEAST AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THEY WILL GET ANY, ALSO ALL OTHER WEBSITES I’VE TRIED ARE THE SAME OUT OF STOCK. I HAVE MY GRANDDAUGHTER ON THE COWS MILK BASED FORMULA AND IM CONCERNED ABOUT HER GETTING THE NUTRIENTS THAT SHE NEEDS IF I CAN NOT FIND ANY YEAST. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT I CAN USE. I HAVE TO USE REGULAR WHOLE MILK FROM THE STORE SINCE I LIVE IN ARIZONA AND THERE IS NO WAY TO GET RAW MILK, NOT EVEN ORGANIC HOMOGENIZED. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU,
GIA
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Do NOT use pasteurized milk, your baby cannot digest it. You can get raw milk in Arizona, contact the WAPF chapter nearest you. Just make the formula without the nutritional yeast until they get it in stock.
My 6.5 months daughter is allergic to cows milk protein so the GI gave her pureamino formula but after finding out it was all gmo based and after she started having eczema I tried the goat milk formula. She loved the taste but her stool was watery from day 1 so thought it could be an allergic reaction and switched to the liver formula ( using chicken liver, dextrose, whey and rest of ingredients) and her stool became normal. She was doing well for a week but then decided to try beef liver and lactose and her stool became watery again. Have reverted back to chicken liver and dextrose but no improvement after few days so don’t know what to do anymore as I don’t want to go back to the commercial formula. Could it be the whey that she is reacting after some time? Could it be too much liver that causes diarrhea? I am traveling to Europe for a month in September so hoping to find a solution so I can organize all the ingredients for the formula while away. Many thanks.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Have you tried the raw milk cow formula? I would do that first, perhaps leaving out the yeast and gelatin at first. Your daughter may do just fine on raw cow’s milk.
Hello, my daughter is 5 months old. I am needing to give her formula once I start my new job. I’ve pumped before but I don’t make as much milk anymore and wanted to find the best formula I can give her when I’m not there to breastfeed. Which of the homemade formulas would be best for just a bottle or two while I’m at work. She also eats homemade baby food so she gets the nutrients she needs, I just need something she won’t reject and is still good for her. I’m interested in the egg and meat based formula because I want breast milk to be the only actual milk she gets until she’s older when then I hope to give goats milk. Also, can any formula you make be frozen for later use? Thanks.
Kristin- if it’s helpful, I started may daughter on supplemental raw milk formula about 5 months. It’s gone great. I usually make 2 batches at a time and freeze. I’ve made up to 4 batches at a time (1/2 gallon milk makes 4 batches). I generally stick to 2 at a time and make it 2x/week based on how much I use. It has worked great to freeze and she tolerates it great- really seems to enjoy it.
Hi! How long do you freeze it for? I’m needing to plan ahead for vacation.
My baby is 1 1/2 months old. I breast feed but have to supplement with formula because I don’t have enough milk to satisfy him. I have tried every type of formula but everything gives him severe gas and colic. I don’t know what to do. Do you think the gas is due to milk allergies/lactose intolerance. I imagine if this is the case he won’t do well on a raw milk formula. Help!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: You can only try. There are lots of things in commercial formula that would be causing the gas and colic. Start with the raw cows milk formula and see how that works.
Is the cream you use the same you buy at the grocery store, used in deserts?
I want to make the goats milk formula but don’t want to add the chicken liver, is it ok just to omit?
Is there a metric version if the recipe (mls and liters) as I am in Australia and I think some of our measurements are different?
My daughter is 3 months old and not doing well on formula
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Please use the formula just as it is given. You can add 1/4 tsp. desiccated liver in place of the fresh liver if you want. Try to get the best cream you can. Pasteurized is OK, not ultrapasteurized. Contact your nearest chapter leader in Australia to help you find the best cream.
Hi there. My baby seems to have a sensitivity to casein.
We are also vegetarian.
Is there another substitute for the liver if I use goats milk?
And can it be pasteurized?
I cannot find a raw goats milk here in Durban South Africa
Why cant you microwave goat milk formula?? I mean yes, microwaving isn’t good for you, but every once in a while I have cold formula and a screaming baby who is waiting for it to warm up in a waterbath. Is every once in a while ok?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: NO, NO, NO. Absolutely not. Use a water bath.
My son is just days from 7 weeks, I have to stop breastfeeding due to inflammatory breast cancer.
Of the past 6 weeks I’ve noticed my son has a small intolerance to dairy in my diet. Should I start with the raw cows milk formula or just skip it and go for the liver?
Thank You
Our daughter, Ally Rose, was born March 21st of this year. She is adopted. After trying to get my milk flowing with a breast pump (did this for months before she was born), but having no success, we turned to the idea of using this formula. We had to use powdered formula for the first two weeks, as we waited in Pennsylvania (where she was born) for them to allow us to bring her home to California. We used the Baby’s Only Organic formula for these first two weeks. The day after we got home to California, I mixed the first batch of formula using our goats’ milk. I have been adding the yeast flakes (though I did have to reduce the amount to 1 tsp per batch due to some of the clogging issues that are mentioned). I was adding the liver at first, but we discovered that this upset her stomach and caused some constipation. After some research, we decided to add a raw egg yoke instead of the liver. I only added the liver/egg yoke every other day. Whenever I add the egg yoke, I also add 1 oz of prune juice to help counteract the constipation. This is working beautifully. Ally Rose is 5 1/2 mos old and the doctor says she is very very healthy. She is our chunky monkey and so happy! We have begun egg yolk feeding, which has taken some time for her to get used to. I mix the yolk with a bit of raw, fresh goat’s milk to make it creamy. I also freeze the formula by pouring 6 oz into a small half pint canning jar and sealing it with the metal lid and ring they come with. I use brand new jars that have not been heated. The rings can be reused indefinitely, but the lids can only be reused about 6 times. The jar fits into the bottle warmer and takes about 10 – 12 minutes to warm up instead of the 5 minutes that the formula from the fridge takes to warm up. We are so happy to have found this for our baby and, if God gives us another little one, we will definitely use it again! Thank you so much!!
I just want to add that this raw egg yolk is from eggs from our free range, organically fed chickens. So we know there is no contamination and we know that the eggs are healthy.
I am in search of a lactose and soy free formula for my 10 week old. He has been diagnosed with lactose intolerance. But I don’t want to give him a soy based formula. I was directed here by my doula. She recommended the goats milk recipe, and my question is, is that you include lactose in the recipe. Should I remove that if it needs to be lactose free?
I imagine you’ve found something by now, but thought I would comment! Did your doctor say that your baby had a genetic condition, called primary lactase deficiency? It is extremely rare, and is the only thing that causes long-term lactose intolerance in infants. The vast majority of people who are lactose intolerant develop that when they are older. Infants can also have temporary lactose intolerance, due to an inflammation of the GI tract, or to extreme overfeeding. Lactose free formulas can be helpful, temporarily, but a return to milk containing lactose is usually best.
I hope your and your baby are doing well!
I have started the raw cows milk formula as of yesterday. I supplement two feedings per baby in 24hrs. My babies are 1 month old. Seems as if their bowel movements have slowed up since. Is this normal and ok? What can I do to help them pass if they are constipated?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: OK for baby to have 1 bowel movement per day. If constipated, use a suppository.
can I put on my formula half milk and half cream? because my raw milk is thin.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Maybe not half cream, but 1/4 cream.
Hello – unfortunately I’ve had a tremendously difficult time breastfeeding. Would like to implement one of these alternative baby formulas. Is the raw cow milk or raw goats milk best? Also, should only egg yolks be introduced at 4-6 months of age or are there any other foods that are beneficial? How much egg yolk should they be receiving per day at these ages? Thanks so much!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Cows milk is best. See The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby and Child Care for infant feeding schedules.
Started giving the raw milk formula at 2weeks. she developed eczema and a nasty diaper rash. She is now 4 months and still has eczema and the diaper rash. Nothing as helped including soaking in the tub, spraying her with grapefruit seed extract at diaper changes , coconut oil, and even Lotrimin. So this past Sunday I decided to give the liver formula a try and it seems as if the diaper rash is worst! Not sure what to do any advice? Could it be the lactose? if its a yeast diaper rash?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Could be the lactose. Leave it out of the formula for a few days and see.
If using desiccated liver instead of frozen liver in the goat’s milk variation, how much do you recommend adding per batch?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: It is 1/4 teaspoon per batch.
Hi, I am living in El Salvador and have a 4 month old baby girl. I wanted to exclusively breastfeed her, but I do not have enough supply and I can’t pump since my baby had tongue and lip tie and we could not correct it on time because she refuses to nures. I cannot get safe goat or cow’s milk here and I cannot get organic liver. I want so badly to make her formula, but the best I can do is order powdered goats milk. Do you think it is okay to try this formula with the powdered goat’s mlik without the liver? What can I add besides liver? I hate feeding her commercial formula and she is constantly struggling to poop. I have started feeding her egg yolks – she even prefers that to the bottle. Thank you!
I forgot to check to notify me with follow up comments. 🙂
Sally Fallon Morell replies: I would use commercial formula for awhile, but introduce homemade baby foods as soon as possilbe. Give her pureed liver, even if it is not organic.
With the homemade whey im wondering if it can get the baby sick? And when putting it in the glass jar to sit out for a couple nights do you put a lid on it?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: The whey can drain overnight, but after that it goes into the fridge.
HI. I’m wanting to make the liver formula. How do I make the beef stock? I have the marrow bones. I bought 3 pounds. How much water do I add to the three pounds. Do I add water as it simmers? I read in one blog on a different site to let it simmer for 12 hours. Can I freeze the broth so it will last longer? How long does broth last in the frig? Also, the one site said to add some vinegar to the broth as it cooks. How much do I add? Thanks
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Please use the recipes in Nourishing Traditions. You can also use chicken stock.
Our son turned 1 year on 10/20. His blood work showed hemoglobin at 9.4 hemotocrite 29.4. He was born early – due date was 11/20.
He recently has been drinking raw milk and breastmilk. Prior to this he was drinking goat’s milk and breastmilk – at times 50/50. The goat’s milk was not made into the formula. Was guided by holistic pediatrician at the time and we did not know of this recipe.
We are considering making the formaula for him? He does eat solids, drink from a cup and sitting up? He’s not crawling but walking with assistance. We were giving him liver regularly but have not in some time. Are starting to do so again. We do not want to give him presription iron replacement. We are planning to give dandelion root and yellow dock.
We need some guidance and help.
Should we provide this formula as the supplement to breastmilk instead of plain raw milk?
Thank you
Sally Fallon Morell replies: At one year, you can give him raw milk, no need to do the formula. Yes, he should get liver–preferably poultry liver made into pate. Cod liver oil will help also–you cant’ absorb iron without vitamin A.
When making the liver formula are the broths meat or bone broth? when I am making the broth can I make as normal with meat , bones, onions, garlic and other veggies, lemon or ACV, and salt and pepper?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Should be both meat and bone. I’d leave out the garlic.
Hello,
Thanks for such a wonderful and informative website. I have read through all the Q&A on Westen A Price page and also all the comments and replies on this site, but I have a few additional questions I’m really hoping you can answer for me.
1) Can I mix half formula and half human breast milk in feedings? (I have a month’s worth of breast milk in my deep freeze that I was able to save before my milk supply ended.)
2) Can the formula be left out at room temperature for a certain amount of time after being warmed? For example breast milk is ok at room temp for 6 hours.
3) What kind of symptoms would indicate a reaction and how quickly would they appear after starting the formula feeding?
4) Can I freeze the raw milk, cream, and yogurt/whey in the recipe increments then thaw and make formula fresh every day (as to avoid several trips to the store a week)?
5) Can I mix the egg/liver/salt combination into the formula?
6)Does the yogurt need to be raw? I have not been able to find raw yogurt, but I found pasteurized yogurt from grass fed cows.
Thank you so much for a response and for all the support!
Sally Fallon Morell replies:
1) Can I mix half formula and half human breast milk in feedings? (I have a month’s worth of breast milk in my deep freeze that I was able to save before my milk supply ended.)
Yes, that is fine.
2) Can the formula be left out at room temperature for a certain amount of time after being warmed? For example breast milk is ok at room temp for 6 hours.
Maybe an hour or so, but I would not take a chance with leaving it out longer, due to the other ingredients.
3) What kind of symptoms would indicate a reaction and how quickly would they appear after starting the formula feeding?
Crying/colic, digestive (diarrhea/constipation) and skin problems (rashes). Crying/colic would show up right away, the others might take longer.
4) Can I freeze the raw milk, cream, and yogurt/whey in the recipe increments then thaw and make formula fresh every day (as to avoid several trips to the store a week)?
Yes this is fine.
5) Can I mix the egg/liver/salt combination into the formula?
Better to feed on a spoon, it will clog the nipple of the bottle.
6)Does the yogurt need to be raw? I have not been able to find raw yogurt, but I found pasteurized yogurt from grass fed cows.
Yes, that is fine.
Sally,
My baby has been diagnosed with the following allergies: dairy, egg, fish, shellfish and peanut, tree nuts. I am nursing so I have cut all these things out of my diet as well (dr.’s orders). I’m concerned about his nutrition…I guess mine too. What are some things you recommend we eat.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: What about raw dairy? it’s worth trying to see whether baby reacts to that. Otherwise, follow our dietary guidelines. Make lots of chicken liver pate, using ghee instead of butter. LOTS and LOTS of bone broth. Would be good if you could at least take cod liver oil.
How do you keep the oils from separating? Is that what the gelatin is for?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: When you make the formula, blend well in a blender. Make fresh every day. Before serving a bottle, shake very well.
I’m an adoptive mother of six adopted kids (and four grandkids!). I breastfed, and produced milk, but still had to supplement with formula. I made formula from raw goat milk, with my youngest son, born in 1993. The only commercial formula he could, or would, take, was soy. I induced lactation by providing supplement at the breast, with the Lact-Aid, so that my breasts (and senses) got the stimulation to produce milk. I’m allergic to soy and having my breasts bathed in soy formula was like pouring acid on them. The choices were to either bottle feed soy, or nurse him, and find some alternative to commercial formulas. I decided on goat milk. I couldn’t find a recipe, except the one from the Meyenberg company, which only added water and corn syrup to it, and one in a century old medical book. I came up with something that worked, but I didn’t have information about what oils to use.
I had actually used goat milk with my fourth baby, but I didn’t make a formula out of it, because she was older when I got her. She was very underweight. While thinking of what all to feed her, I remembered that the woman I was buying that goat milk from had said to shake it up before using it. That gave me an idea of a way to come up with goat milk with a higher fat content. Goat milk is largely naturally homogenized, but not completely. If you put a quart in a tall, glass, bottle overnight, then hold it up to a light, you will see that the top part is more opaque than the bottom part. I started putting it in bottles with narrow necks, upside down. In the morning, I held it over a bowl, opened the cap and drained out some of the skimmer milk, which I save for another use, and fed my daughter the higher fat milk. She grew into a happy, chubby, little thing!
I wondered if someone might be able to use that information, to have more cream in the raw, organic milk, rather than adding cream from cows!
my baby of 1 year doesn’t want to eat, only take raw milk formula hit with banana and sweet potato, cream cheese with butter and yolk and liver hit with yogurt and broth. What do you think about that?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: This sounds OK. Gradually try to give other foods.
OK, I’m calmer, but another question, my baby just wants to hit the bottle instead of a spoon. what you say about it? But it’s a very healthy baby, never got sick.
I’m sorry, by “hit the bottle” you’re saying the baby wants only to drink formula (with the stuff you’ve added) and not eat solid foods? She’s a year old, and you’re asking whether she ought to be interested in solid foods, is that right?
That’s right, 1 year old and just wants to take the bottle with the food. Not solid.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Have you tried setting baby at the table with the rest of the family eats–so she can see others eating and wants to imitate?
I’m not sure if you’re still experiencing problems with solid foods, but if you are, look into Sensory Processing Disorder. Your baby could have a sensory aversion to the feel of solid food, or even the spoon, or both. My daughter has SPD, without feeding issues, but my friend’s son has SPD and at 2 1/2 still only wants liquids with occasional purees. An occupational therapist can help make a smooth transition (early intervention will usually provide one for free up until 3 years old), but if that isn’t possible you can also find tips online. I hope this helps if you’re still struggling!
Yes, I tried everything you can imagine. The only thing that eats solid yolk with cream cheese, but liver, sweet potatoes, fruit, liquefied only in a bottle with formula of raw milk and yogurt.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: How is the baby doing healthwise? If the baby is healthy, I would not worry about it. Eventually the baby will stop using a bottle and eat with a spoon and fork.
the baby is very healthy, never got sick, perfect teeth, very smart, but people are talking about him not eating like the other spoon, so I worry. Follow your book correctly, my only problem is eating solids.
Thanks sally, so I don’t have to worry anymore?
Because people criticize about him not eating properly with the spoon and solids.
There is no problem in beating the liver with yogurt and formula?
my baby is very healthy, never gets sick.
Follow correctly your book, but my only problem has been eating solids and spoon, bottle only.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: The good health is the main thing. No need to worry. The first time he goes to a 2-yr-old birthday party, he will get the idea that he shouldn’t be using a bottle.
I’m wondering if you have heard about holle organic formula? And what your thoughts are about it? I have had to supplement with formula for the last 4 months because my milk supply is not enough, probably be cause I’ve has to pump because he refuses to breast feed, but I try and get as much breast milk as possible I usually now only get about 2 ounces out evry 6 hours, then give the rest formula. What do u think about that brand? And if I should be adding any supplements to it?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: This formula is a highly processed product (see ingredients below). The worst thing about it is that it has NO saturated fat!! Best to make the baby formula.
Sylvia P. Onusic, PhD, CNS, LDN, board-certified and licensed nutritionist, writer and researcher, replies: Holle Organic Formula is a German product. Its ingredients are: Skimmed milk**, whey powder* partly demineralised, vegetable oils*, maltodextrin*, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, sodium chloride, vitamin C, vitamin E, ferrous lactate, zinc sulphate, niacin, Calcium-D-pantothenate, copper sulphate, vitamin A, vitamin B1, vitamin B6, manganese sulphate, vitamin B2, potassium iodate, folic acid, vitamin K, sodium selenate, vitamin D. *from organic farming **from biodynamic farming
Where are the saturated fats? Vegetables oils; who knows what kind. It’s highly processed of course. I am not certain what demineralised means, but it can’t be good. Skimmed milk. The selenium is a poor selenium salt, any supplement that is oxide or sulphate is not absorbed, if at all. Zinc poor source.
My opinion is that she could do much better with the WAPF formula. Sarah Pope’s videos, etc. This is a highly processed product with inadequate nutrition to raise a healthy baby.
My baby is 6 months old and we just introduced her to egg yolk mixed with a little homemade chicken broth. She loves it! I was wondering if would be appropriate to follow her egg yolk dinner with a bottle of straight broth. I exclusively breastfeed, and my supply is just enough for her, but it would be nice to have Daddy give her a few ounces of broth between feedings. What do you think? Thank you!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Yes, that would be great for your baby–and also for Mom!
Hello,
We made the raw milk baby formula for our baby because he does not get enough from my breast milk but he got an allergic reaction (bumps on face and neck similar to eczema). We’ve been reading goats milk is a good alternative but we also read if baby is allergic to cow milk he will also be allergic to goats milk because they contain similar proteins. What do you suggest?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Try the goat milk and see how he does. Also, try the cow milk formula without the yeast flakes or gelatin and see if this helps.
Your article states that the nutritional yeast flakes are essential for providing sufficient enough folic acid — is there something that can be substituted for the yeast flakes? After trying to eliminate/change out other ingredients, our eczema problem remains and is worsening. Suspicious of the yeast flakes at this point.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Yes, take them out. As soon as baby is 4-5 months old, try giving the egg yolk or pureed liver, which will supply folate.
Sally,
reading some of your articles, I am faced with a doubt strong.
I live in Brazil, unfortunately, do not have access to raw milk and pure, finding only raw milk from cows that consume organic corn and undergo the milking machine, I have a 1 year old son who takes this raw milk, go ahead with this milk or not?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Yes this milk is fine–all cows are milked with a milking machine, and organic corn is fine. This would be a great food for your son.
I was wondering if the formulas could be used with peg tubes or if they are too thick? I was also wondering if they were safe for all babies. For example a premie or a baby who is developmentally challenged? I am just interested in healthier options for infants with peg tubes than the can feeds.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: What are peg tubes? But the formula can probably be used with them. For a premie, I would try to get raw mother’s milk. But if that is not available, you could certainly try the raw milk formula.
Hello,
With all effort to birth my breech baby naturally I ended up with emergency c section. Breastfeeding was very difficult, we had various issues from the beginning. I breastfed for 4 mths than had to give formula. We recently discovered the raw milk formula and have started her on it. She is7 mths. We also started her on egg yolk and bone broth which she loves. She has seemed very happy and more alive on these nutrients. Just recently she began getting eczema on her back. Could this be a potential detox from the commercial formula? Shall I be alarmed or continue and keep my eye on it? She is so healthy otherwise. Just hoping to give her gut the best possible going forward.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: I would not worry about it–much more important that she seems happy on her new foods. See The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care for treatments for the eczema. Another thing I have discovered recently is apple cider vinegar topically on the rash–this can often clear up eczema.
Is it absolutely necessary to put the cream in the raw cow milk recipe?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: No–if baby is doing well, it is not necessary.
Hi Sally- my baby is a week shy of her first birthday. I was exclusively breastfeeding her until about a month ago when I started supplementing with commercial formula 🙁 She is a tiny 1 year old (14.5 lbs). Her doctor is now pushing me to start her on products for toddlers such as Pediasure (ie sugar water). Should I try her on the raw milk formula or is there a different recipe for toddlers? She needs more calories than just raw milk. Thanks!
Sally Fallon Morell replies: You baby needs solid food!! No traditonal culture in the world does exclusive breastfeeding past 6 months. Yes, they often breastfeed for many years, but not exclusive breastfeeding. Please see our recommendations for feeding babies–start with liver puree and egg yolk. Mashed banana and avocado will also help your baby gain weight. And at her age, you can just give raw milk, perhaps with cream added, formula is not necessary . The extra calories should come from solid food–with plenty of fats. She should also be getting cod liver oil.
Some links to start:
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/feeding-babies/
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nourishing-a-growing-baby/
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/foods-to-tantalize-toddlers-preschoolers/
More articles here:
http://www.westonaprice.org/childrens-health/
She absolutely is eating solids! Sorry, I meant she was exclusive of formula until about a month ago. We are seeing a GI doc bc of chronic constipation and failure to thrive. She suggested she needed more fluids/calories from formula bc she thought I was likely not producing enough milk. She isn’t even on the growth chart anymore 🙁 So for catch up, she recommended we switch to Pediasure. Solids would be secondary to the supplementation. Your thoughts?
I know you advise no need to do the formula after 1 year, just raw milk, but isnt there still nutritional benefit in continuing it? I order some grass fed beef and free range soy free chicken from the Amish and make my bone broth from that and try to only buy organic vegetables but I would say about 50% of what I buy is just from the grocery store. I was thinking continuing the formula would “fill in the nutritional gap”…. Or no?
Sally Fallon Morell replies: The raw milk is very nutritious for your baby, you really don’t need to make the formula. Be sure to give cod liver oil separately, and at least one egg yolk per day, also liver puree 2-3 times per week.
Hi, I recently switched my 6 mo old to the raw milk formula (but with cultured milk) and he is loving it but not drinking nearly as much formula as he was breastmilk (about 30 oz when he used to eat 40 or more). I am concerned because he used to be such a voracious eater. I know formula fills little tummies up more, but how much would you recommend he eat during the day? I still breastfeed him at night when he wakes up but it’s mostly for soothing.
Sally Fallon Morell replies: Just keep track of his weight and if he is gaining, then it should be fine. And at this age he should start getting solid food, such as egg yolk and pureed liver.
Thank you Sally! He is eating plenty of solids, fruits and veggies only though, I haven’t tried egg yet and I haven’t been able to find a reputable source of chicken liver. He’s not losing any weight but the sudden decrease made me nervous.
Hello, my 1 year old baby has diarrhea makes 5 continuous days, what’s best for her? I tried potato, carrot, coconut water, whey and broths and not getting results.